When I first started working, it was a little bit like that. They said, Come be a writer, but we'll find a place for you to perform somehow. Initially, I wasn't that helpful as a writer. Because, if you tell me what the bit is, I can come up with jokes for it. I can write dialogue, but what they needed was guys who could say, Okay, it's a machine where you put in a piece of fruit and pull on this lever and out comes a celebrity joke.
Robert called me and said, I'm gonna be working with this guy Conan O'Brien who's taking over Letterman's show. Do you wanna meet him, maybe get a job as a writer on the show? And I said yeah, I'm tired of eating baloney. I had started to apply for day jobs, which up till that point I had been able to avoid for three years, you know, waiting on tables or whatever.